1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:16,320 Tonight on Unidentified. 2 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:22,200 We had been hearing rumors that there was a senior navy official in the Italian government 3 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:24,760 who may be interested in speaking with us. 4 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:31,320 In Sicily, a craft appeared and it should arrive. 5 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:33,320 This is nice. 6 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:35,400 These are all their top. 7 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:36,400 These are all their events. 8 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:37,400 This is it. 9 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:39,520 This is the briefing. 10 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,640 This is just now cross the line to a true national security threat. 11 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:44,880 This is a worldwide phenomenon. 12 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:46,560 Is it interdimensional? 13 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,920 Is it from another planet? 14 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:53,480 Oh my god! 15 00:00:53,480 --> 00:00:59,320 For eight years, Lou Elizondo ran a secret UFO investigation for the US military. 16 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,280 But in 2017, he quit in protest. 17 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:06,160 I put my entire future on the line because I believe in what I believe in. 18 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,640 Now he's joined an elite group of former government insiders. 19 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:13,680 Their mission, reveal what they say, is the truth about UFOs. 20 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,800 This is real and we're going to get to the bottom of it. 21 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:21,640 For the past year, Elizondo's investigation has produced shocking revelations from military 22 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:22,640 eyewitnesses. 23 00:01:23,320 --> 00:01:26,040 That is something I have never seen. 24 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:31,240 Two Navy fighter pilots told him they came face to face with a Tic Tac shaped UFO in 25 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:32,240 2004. 26 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:36,680 High G, rapid velocity, rapid acceleration. 27 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:40,120 How can I possibly fight this? 28 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:44,920 And a Navy radar operator said he tracked an entire fleet of the unidentified craft 29 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:46,720 flying over the Pacific. 30 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,840 I had these objects raining out of the sky. 31 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,640 If these things are hostile, then we're screwed. 32 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:54,280 But these stories were just the beginning. 33 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:59,600 They're up there when we take off and then we land and my buddy that takes off an hour 34 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:01,760 later seeing the same things. 35 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:05,720 Lou Elizondo discovered a different class of UFOs. 36 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:09,760 Allegedly stalked Navy fighter pilots off the East Coast in 2015. 37 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:14,600 It seemed like they were aware of our presence because they would actively move around us. 38 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:16,960 And they even followed the pilots to the Middle East. 39 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,640 We really have no idea what we're dealing with. 40 00:02:23,640 --> 00:02:27,680 But there's one thing his investigation has never found. 41 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:28,680 Until now. 42 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:48,160 Tell me about your journey and what it's been like so far. 43 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,960 What's the meaning of the government? 44 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:56,760 I don't know if it was a journey more or less than an odyssey that hasn't finished yet. 45 00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:01,200 It was probably one of the most difficult decisions I ever made in my life. 46 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,880 With the ramifications, I could be potentially disastrous. 47 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:05,880 You know, it's not just me I got to worry about. 48 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:11,200 I got to worry about my wife, my two daughters. 49 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:15,880 I gave it all up to do what I thought was right. 50 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,880 Half the people that I know think I'm crazy. 51 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:23,880 The other half of the people I know don't understand. 52 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:28,880 At the end of the day, I hope that people a lot smarter than me will come out of the shadows 53 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,880 and tell the government what they know. 54 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:37,880 I did this because I needed our leadership and government to finally take notice. 55 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:41,880 The only way I could fix the system was to fix it from the outside. 56 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:50,880 Lou Elizondo and his partner Tom DeLong are on their way to Rome, Italy. 57 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:54,880 When I was in the government, I just couldn't go to France or Italy 58 00:03:54,880 --> 00:04:00,880 and have a conversation about UFOs with their National Defense apparatus. 59 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:04,880 They've been invited to a private meeting with senior Italian military officials 60 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,880 concerned about UFO encounters. 61 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:20,880 He had been hearing for a while, rumors that there was a potential attack on an Italian aircraft. 62 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:30,880 This is the first time that myself, even being an ATIP, was ever aware of an actual hostile act. 63 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:46,880 Italy is one of the few nations that openly investigates UFOs. 64 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:58,880 When Tom and myself first came to Italy, it was made very clear to us that this is not an Italian phenomenon. 65 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:02,880 It's not an American phenomenon. It is indeed a global phenomenon. 66 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:11,880 We believe that investigating and communicating the subject can help pull people of all nations together. 67 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:19,880 Every government wants to keep extremely secret any information. 68 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:26,880 Clairbrunov-Riuccio is a scientist and was a commander in an elite unit of the Italian Navy. 69 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:34,880 For 15 years, he's been investigating unidentified craft with a team of researchers. 70 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:41,880 So I know several information, but my government don't want to know. 71 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:48,880 Because if my government know, they must do something. 72 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:52,880 Absolutely. I would like to see what you have. That's what I'd like to see. 73 00:05:52,880 --> 00:06:00,880 If I tell you something that is restricted, you must give us something of restricted. 74 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:10,880 We are not Russian. We are brothers. You have to give me something of the same weight. 75 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:15,880 I still have to be cognizant of the security clearance I hold. 76 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:25,880 So please do not confuse my speaking in generalities as trying to avoid a question. 77 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:32,880 During our time in the ATIP program, we were focused on only two primary objectives. 78 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:36,880 Those two objectives, what is it and how does it work? 79 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:43,880 We still don't know what they are, but we have a much better understanding now of how they work. 80 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:52,880 We assembled more than 13,000 cases during the last 70 years and we have a database. 81 00:06:52,880 --> 00:07:00,880 The Italians have accumulated one of the world's largest collections of data on unidentified aerial phenomena, or UAP. 82 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:08,880 Unfortunately, if this is not shared with other people outside Italy, it's useless. 83 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:13,880 There's one incident in particular the officials want to discuss. 84 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:33,880 In 2014 Sicily, a craft appeared a few hundred meters behind the Coptor Tail, and it shot a raid that destroyed helicopter wings. 85 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:38,880 I can show you the photographs. 86 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:40,880 That's what I'd like to see. 87 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:46,880 Clarbruno Virguccio was a commander in the Italian military's equivalent of the US Navy SEALs. 88 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:53,880 He's describing a harrowing 2004 encounter between one of his military helicopters and a UFO. 89 00:07:53,880 --> 00:08:05,880 We can't use missiles against this device, so you know, we can't launch missiles or the missile will be sent back. 90 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,880 So this was deliberate, you believe that it was deliberate? 91 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:10,880 Absolutely. 92 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:22,880 In 2004, a series of spontaneous fires broke out across northern Sicily, destroying homes and forcing evacuations. 93 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,880 The Italian military sent a helicopter to investigate. 94 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:33,880 Officials say the copter was chased by a saucer-shaped UFO, that shot a powerful electromagnetic beam at its rotor. 95 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:37,880 The helicopter was severely damaged, but able to land. 96 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:41,880 The incident was photographed by a local resident. 97 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:48,880 Locals had also reported seeing mysterious objects in the helicopter. 98 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:56,880 For months, the military investigators were baffled, but they were able to piece together a few key details. 99 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:01,880 This signal was absolutely directional. 100 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:09,880 It was a beam, which we could see on a certain frequency band. 101 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:27,880 We discovered that when they used their energy weapons, they must go outside the stealth mode. 102 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:38,880 Only in that moment, we could see the depleted uranium weapons. 103 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:43,880 And now, what you say to me? 104 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:50,880 Militaries around the world have electromagnetic pulse weapons that produce quick bursts of energy that can destroy electrical systems. 105 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:55,880 But the Italians claim the pulse fired in the attack on their helicopter destroyed its rotor. 106 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,880 No known military has that capability. 107 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:04,880 They were very pointed in matter of fact that these things had been kind of plaguing them for some time. 108 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:13,880 One individual in particular provided some very, very detailed information to include some analysis on frequency. 109 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:19,880 I hate to say it, but they may have more information than we do even in the U.S. potentially. 110 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:28,880 The Italians say the spontaneous fires in northern Sicily were also caused by an electromagnetic beam, which they say came from the ocean. 111 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:35,880 So the target was found at a distance of around 80 kilometers. 112 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,880 And the source was in the open sea. 113 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:40,880 Do we have an altitude? 114 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:44,880 Because it was in the bottom of the sea. 115 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:49,880 Elizondo has heard reports of UFOs in the ocean before. 116 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:53,880 We all very quickly realized that there was something in the water. 117 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:55,880 The lights are under the water. 118 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:57,880 And suddenly they are in the water. 119 00:10:57,880 --> 00:10:58,880 In the water? 120 00:10:58,880 --> 00:10:59,880 Yeah. 121 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:13,880 You could use the same frequency to provide a radio beacon to call them first. 122 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:15,880 To attract them. 123 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:21,880 To show them that we have understood their technology. 124 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:23,880 Communication. 125 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:27,880 This was next level. 126 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:31,880 One of our international friends may have even figured out a way to communicate. 127 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,880 We didn't get that far, eh, to have that for damn sure. 128 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:44,880 Have you ever tried an approach with who to pilot these jets? 129 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:46,880 I can't answer that question. 130 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,880 Of course. It's quite justified. 131 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:59,880 I cannot speak on behalf of if other efforts had existed within the U.S. government. 132 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:09,880 In Russia, and now even in China, there is the tendency to organize at a government level 133 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:15,880 in order to study such phenomena and to find results from these studies. 134 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:16,880 You are aware of this? 135 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:17,880 I am. 136 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:18,880 Okay. 137 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:20,880 I think we're all in the same boat. 138 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:30,880 So my hope is with the help of you all and everybody else, we can move this topic forward. 139 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,880 This affects humanity. This doesn't affect just one country. 140 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:39,880 And so the question is in which way our association can help you. 141 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:40,880 Thank you. 142 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:49,880 As the meeting winds down, Elizondo DeLong and the Italian officials agree to form a global partnership. 143 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:56,880 If their governments won't take the threat seriously, they'll work together outside the system. 144 00:12:56,880 --> 00:13:03,880 The last moment or the last hour of our engagement with the Italian government, we were afforded a thumb drive. 145 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:10,880 A thumb drive that has a tremendous amount of data on it about UAPs and here, particularly in Italy. 146 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:20,880 These are all their... Tom. 147 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:21,880 Yeah. 148 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:22,880 These are all their events. 149 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:24,880 I've got the whole thing here. 150 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:28,880 These are all the events since 1901 here in Italy. 151 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:34,880 All the reports, the entire spreadsheet, the lat-longs and everything. 152 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:36,880 Look at these historical ones. 153 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:38,880 This is nuts. 154 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:40,880 Look, you got some analysis. 155 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:42,880 Oh, man. 156 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,880 This is the incident that happened down in Sicily. 157 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:47,880 There it is. Look at that. 158 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:49,880 That is incredible. 159 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:50,880 This is it. 160 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:52,880 And this is where they had the helicopter. 161 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:54,880 Son of a bitch, this is the briefing. 162 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:56,880 There it is, right behind it, right? 163 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:00,880 And then when you come over here, this is the actual top secret investigation they did. 164 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:04,880 Here's the rotors and here's a close-up. 165 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:11,880 Had any foreign adversary attacked a military helicopter of another nation, 166 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:15,880 that could be a sign of aggression for sure and maybe potentially an act of war. 167 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:19,880 So that's a big deal. 168 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:30,880 It is incumbent upon any government to protect its people. 169 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:34,880 And if there's any military aircraft that is interfered with, 170 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,880 that could be a sign of vulnerabilities. 171 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:39,880 And that's a huge issue. 172 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:47,880 Hey, hey Steve. 173 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:49,880 Lui Alessando was back from Italy. 174 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,880 He's meeting up with his partner, Steve Justice. 175 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,880 Justice is the former director of Advanced Systems 176 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,880 for Lockheed Martin's legendary Skunk Works Division. 177 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:02,880 Here's the bottom line, there's three options. 178 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:04,880 It's a foreign technology. 179 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,880 The second option is it's our technology. 180 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:11,880 Something that we have managed to keep under wraps for a super long time. 181 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:16,880 The third option is that this is something else. 182 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,880 Where does that leave us? 183 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:25,880 Over the past year, Alessando and Justice have met to explore possible explanations 184 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:29,880 for the incredible accounts of U.S. military encounters with UFOs. 185 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:36,880 They discussed whether UFOs could actually be top secret American military test aircraft. 186 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:40,880 And the pilots they interviewed were merely unwitting test subjects. 187 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:46,880 I can't completely eliminate the fact that those type of velocities 188 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:52,880 potentially, potentially are achievable with certain technologies we have. 189 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:59,880 It's possible, it could be because, you know, it was an operational test. 190 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:02,880 You know, not everybody gets to know everything. 191 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:08,880 They also considered whether these UFOs could be advanced aircraft from a foreign adversary. 192 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:14,880 A foreign adversary, they would have to send in something that's super sophisticated and fast 193 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:18,880 that can get in, look at what it is we're doing, and then get back out, right? 194 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:25,880 My greatest fear is that an adversary did figure it out, and we are just way, way, way, way, way behind. 195 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:33,880 The third and most controversial theory is that these unidentified craft are not of this world. 196 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:38,880 These things that we're seeing, they don't have wings, they don't have tails, 197 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:41,880 they don't really have any cockpits that we can see. 198 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:46,880 They don't have anything that we would normally associate with the traditional aircraft. 199 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:47,880 Right. 200 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:57,880 We can create systems that do pieces of each of these, and not a single system that does all of these. 201 00:16:57,880 --> 00:16:58,880 Precisely. 202 00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:01,880 When we were at ATIP, we had some really smart people. 203 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:08,880 These were scientists, academics, who had put a lot of time and effort into trying to figure out the physics of this. 204 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:18,880 We were looking at what are these things, and what will it take to explain them, and then to exploit them, and be able to build them. 205 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:24,880 Although we were focused on the nuts and bolts, we were trying to look at all potential possibilities and options of what this could be. 206 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:29,880 Part of that was a commissioning of several studies that has now become quite public. 207 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:31,880 37 studies. 208 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:32,880 Right. 209 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:40,880 This declassified list of studies, Elizondo's secret UFO program commissioned, was released to the public in 2019. 210 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:44,880 Thanks to the efforts of the late Senator, John McCain. 211 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:49,880 I'm going to pull up real quick here. This is a letter. 212 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:51,880 Oh, this is the McCain? 213 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:55,880 Yeah, so I think it's important we put this into context. 214 00:17:55,880 --> 00:18:00,880 This is the response by DIA to the late Senator, John McCain. 215 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:09,880 Senator McCain has been there, done that, fought for this country, for him to take the time to do this. 216 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:10,880 I think it's very telling. 217 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:14,880 And at this point in time, he knew what his fate was as well. 218 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,880 And so it's clear he wanted to accomplish some things. 219 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:28,880 In July 2018, Senator McCain sent a request to the Defense Intelligence Agency for all non-classified documents from Elizondo's secret program to be released to the public. 220 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:36,880 Now that the list of studies has been released by the US government, we really weren't looking at aircraft 40 years in the future. 221 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:42,880 We were looking at a paradigm changing technology to try to help explain the phenomenon. 222 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:48,880 Correct. The biggest obstacle these things have to overcome is a lot of these were typically classified as pseudoscience. 223 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:49,880 Right. 224 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:59,880 The studies explored complex theoretical topics like invisibility, wormholes, and anti-gravity, subjects many believe to be science fiction. 225 00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:02,880 This technology is for all intents and purposes magic. 226 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:05,880 So, you know, we would like to get it. 227 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:12,880 Whoever cracks the code and figures this stuff out first would have a tremendous advantage over our other adversaries. 228 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:23,880 What will your feelings be if it turns out that it is not a foreign technology capability and is not a US capability? 229 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:25,880 Then what? 230 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,880 Then it's something else. 231 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,880 Because it's hard to say it's not there. 232 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:38,880 The studies examined cutting-edge theories, but they did not address the question that has shadowed the UFO community for decades. 233 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:44,880 The possibility that intelligent life from another solar system has arrived on Earth. 234 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:54,880 The question has been debated for decades with no hard proof. 235 00:19:54,880 --> 00:20:00,880 The question of whether or not there's extraterrestrial life is certainly a scientific question that deserves investigation. 236 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:05,880 Matthew Kleban is a leading theoretical physicist at New York University. 237 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:15,880 We now know that our own galaxy contains of order 100 billion stars and there are of order 10 or 100 billion other galaxies that we can observe within the observable part of our universe. 238 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:19,880 So you multiply those two numbers together and it's a staggering, huge figure. 239 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:28,880 With the help of deep space telescopes, astrophysicists estimate that not only do billions of solar systems exist in our observable universe, 240 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:32,880 up to one in four contain a planet that could sustain life. 241 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:39,880 It would be naive to think that we could be the only ones out there and I get that. 242 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:44,880 What I'm always fearful of is in people focusing in on aliens. 243 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:50,880 Now you start going down the roads of, is it from another planet? 244 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:52,880 Is it interdimensional? 245 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:54,880 Is it spiritual? 246 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:56,880 What is those things? 247 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:05,880 It opens up so many cans of worms that I just, I just don't allow myself to go down that path. 248 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,880 I mean, I think it's disingenuous to say it's not an option. 249 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:13,880 It's so unknown that we really have no idea what we're dealing with. 250 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:15,880 What's going on actually? 251 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:19,880 What's phone calls and emails on our favorite subject? 252 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:28,880 So, things are happened and very much looking forward to seeing Senator. 253 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:38,880 Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence, Chris Mellon, is on his way to meet with a president. 254 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:48,880 Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence, Chris Mellon, is on his way to meet with a powerful ally in his mission to give the government to take the UFO threat seriously. 255 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:53,880 Former Senate Majority Leader, Harry Reid. 256 00:21:53,880 --> 00:22:01,880 Harry Reid was convinced by doing his own research that this was something as an elected official he should probably care about. 257 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:09,880 And he clearly convinced some of his colleagues in the Senate that it was important enough to look into and that's how this Pentagon program got started in the first place. 258 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:16,880 Senator Reid was the driving force behind the creation of the Pentagon's secret UFO unit known as ATIP. 259 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:27,880 Reid retired from the Senate in 2017, but he's still working behind the scenes to push the U.S. government to study what he believes is a clear and present danger to national security. 260 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:36,880 There's a lot of very profound, very deep issues that individuals like Harry Reid is acutely aware of that he's been deeply involved with. 261 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:46,880 And for him to devote time to this issue in the twilight of his career, you know, it's fascinating. 262 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:57,880 We've been in a quandary. We have these very, very proficient, best trained pilots in the world, and they see these strange occurrences. 263 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:06,880 And in the past, they've been afraid to say anything to anyone for fear they would be looked at as a little strange, a little weird. 264 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:10,880 So for decades, nothing has been done about these instances. 265 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:15,880 What I wanted to do today initially is provide an update. 266 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:22,880 Mellon wants Reid to know about the increasingly dangerous military encounters with UFOs. His team has uncovered. 267 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:39,880 We've learned that beginning in 2015, there were scores of encounters off the east coast of the United States between U.S. naval fighters and unidentified flying objects of different kinds. 268 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:48,880 And this was within minutes of a flying distance from the nation's capital. This is still unresolved and this is still continuing. 269 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:53,880 And active duty pilots have approached us and shared these stories with us. 270 00:23:53,880 --> 00:24:00,880 Wherever we were, they were there. So that could mean two things. That could mean they were already there or they were following the strike group. 271 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:15,880 One of the extraordinary things we learned from these pilots is that when their carrier battle group deployed across the Atlantic, they continued to encounter these things all the way across the Atlantic into the Middle East and even over Syria. 272 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:24,880 We hear so much about off the coast of Florida and especially Virginia. People think that's the only place these unusual things happen. It's not true. 273 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:33,880 It's all over the world where we have battle groups. So this isn't anything that just is limited to the United States. It's a worldwide phenomenon. 274 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:39,880 But we're finding in both these legislative and executive branch this still lingering concern about a stigma. 275 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:48,880 But I never hid from it. I acknowledge it. I thought it was an important thing for our country. And I think people who will run from this are absolutely wrong. 276 00:24:49,880 --> 00:25:00,880 Senator Reid secured funding for the Pentagon secret UFO program in part because he and others had come to believe America's adversaries were gaining the advantage. 277 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:16,880 Since I got interested in this has been KGB Putin. He was head of the KGB and I guarantee you that he's got a lot of information on this. 278 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:22,880 And I would bet that Russia is ahead of us in looking into this scientifically. 279 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:31,880 Yes sir. And we absolutely share your concern. And one of the things that is very frustrating to me as a former Defense Department official myself. 280 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,880 It's not even being examined. It's sitting on computer servers. 281 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:42,880 You know why they're not looking at it. They don't want to. It's another issue that they're trying to ignore. And that's what's happened over the years. And that's too bad. 282 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:52,880 We now have the technology. What else is going on in space that we're the information is coming in. It's all stored someplace in a computer bank and it could be pulled up. 283 00:25:52,880 --> 00:26:07,880 We're in an environment right now where there's sort of unprecedented distrust of our government. Do you have any reason to believe that there is a government cover up of the UFOs that that behind the scenes the government actually really does know the answers and has. 284 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:16,880 I think the government doesn't know the answers. But over the decades rather than try to find the answers they've tried to cover up what the answers might be. 285 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:33,880 In an effort to find answers. Reed brought in aerospace entrepreneur Bob Bigelow and Bob Bigelow has been very open about his views that he believes there are intelligent beings from some other place that have visited here. 286 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:42,880 Bigelow is one of the few high profile people involved in the Pentagon secret program to say he believes the unidentified craft are from another world. 287 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:54,880 Bob Bigelow recently said on national TV that he absolutely believes not only that alien life exists but that aliens are here that aliens are visiting Earth. You share that view. 288 00:26:54,880 --> 00:27:06,880 I feel it would be from a congressional standpoint. It would affect my credibility if I started talking about everything I know. 289 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:22,880 OK so it's a huge week for us. This is a really big moment. So talk to me a little bit about today and the people were meeting. 290 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:28,880 I'll be introducing you to an individual that worked with me when I was with a tip. 291 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:36,880 Lou Elizondo and Tom DeLong are in Washington D.C. for a series of secret meetings with government officials. 292 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:46,880 The reason for this meeting is to basically de-conflict and coordinate where are some of the areas that we can continue help inform and push the cause. 293 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:53,880 And they are going to also let us know what they're doing on their end. We want to make sure we don't step on each other's toes and we can help each other out. 294 00:27:53,880 --> 00:28:02,880 Since he left the Pentagon Elizondo has been working to convince the military to create a formal process for pilots and others to report their encounters with UFOs. 295 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:10,880 Just a year ago if I wanted to have a conversation in the halls of the Pentagon about this I had to go into a vault that was located inside a skiff. 296 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:20,880 I had to shut the door turn on noise makers and then I had to whisper in a very quiet voice because of the nature and the sensitivity and the stigma that was associated with this portfolio. 297 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:29,880 And I think that's important because I think the conversation about this requires transparency requires collaboration and it requires honesty. 298 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:37,880 When you come across a game changing technology it's very very important that you report that up through the chain of command. 299 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:54,880 The Department of Defense says Elizondo secret UFO program officially shut down in 2012. But Elizondo says the investigation continues in the D.O.D. there's two things that occur when you have an organization. 300 00:28:54,880 --> 00:29:01,880 There's paperwork when you start a program and there's paperwork when you end a program. You won't find any paperwork that ended at it. 301 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:10,880 Over the past year he's been communicating behind the scenes with a new team of Pentagon intelligence officers who are studying UFOs. 302 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:27,880 E-Tip is no longer run by a single office. There's now several offices that are engaged in this effort. We meet with people regularly involved in this effort. And that's about all I can say. Let's roll. 303 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:32,880 Elizondo and DeLong had to a meeting with three military intelligence officers. 304 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:46,880 These are individuals that have to remain very very much protected. There are extremely qualified people whom I trust whom I personally know that are still running this effort. 305 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:53,880 And it is being run with official blessing. And that is what I'm prepared to say. I cannot go into any more than that. 306 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,880 The meeting lasts for over an hour. 307 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:12,880 Right before the meeting concluded I was pulled aside and shared some private information that there is still some degree of animosity regarding my departure. 308 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:26,880 I didn't ask for this portfolio. It was given to me and I committed myself to it from day one. You know you're given a mission that you believe in and your job is to finish that mission. 309 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:40,880 Since he went public Elizondo has been able to bring military eyewitnesses out of the shadows and on the record. 310 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:46,880 We finally have people having conversations about this enigma. 311 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:54,880 When I get called to go to the Pentagon and provide a now serious debrief it's a little surreal. 312 00:30:54,880 --> 00:31:00,880 People have testified before Congress. These are active duty military personnel. 313 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,880 Other people have had this issue as well so it's not a one off with me. 314 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,880 They have informed Congress we have the executive department engaged. 315 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:20,880 So far this group of individuals have made more progress in getting this issue into the mainstream and taken seriously that anybody has in a very very long time if ever. 316 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:32,880 There's a growing awareness in Congress about this but I don't anticipate that anytime soon we're going to have UFO hearings on Capitol Hill. 317 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:43,880 It really goes against my DNA to have gone quote unquote public with this. 318 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:49,880 Do I think it was the right decision. I think it was the only decision because otherwise we'd still be able to get this issue into the mainstream. 319 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:55,880 We'll be where we were a year ago which is nowhere. 320 00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:04,880 Something unexplained is happening in the skies above the United States even the US Navy isn't certain what is going on. 321 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,880 In April 2019 the US Navy made an unprecedented announcement. 322 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,880 It's creating a new protocol for pilots to report UFO sightings. 323 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,880 For Chris Mellon the announcement is a major victory. 324 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,880 Chris Mellon is a former Pentagon intelligence official thanks very much for coming on. 325 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:28,880 Thank you Tucker it's an extraordinary turnaround and it's really the result of an interaction between Congress and the Navy. 326 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:42,880 And the fact that this has gotten on on Congress's radar began some discussions which elevated an issue that before this time had been smothered and kept at low levels of the bureaucracy. 327 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:49,880 This is probably single handedly one of the greatest things that the Navy could do for this country. 328 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:55,880 For Lou Elizondo the new Navy policy is confirmation of everything he's worked for over the past year. 329 00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:00,880 It's also an admission the UFO phenomenon is real and needs to be studied. 330 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:06,880 They're writing policy that rather than keeping people quiet will will encourage people to come forward. 331 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:12,880 Keep in mind that the topic of UAP's just a year and a half ago people were snickering and laughing. 332 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:19,880 That was relegated to be Hollywood movies and cheap TV shows and now people are having a real conversation. 333 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:26,880 The Navy's new UFO policy was first reported by Politico's Brian Bender. 334 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:34,880 Lou Elizondo, Chris Mellon and others have come forward to try and get the Pentagon leadership to do more about this. 335 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:41,880 To apply real resources to try and figure out is it real? Is it an adversary? Is it something else? 336 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,880 The way that will lead I think remains to be seen. 337 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:51,880 Howdy, Jens. How are you? I hate to break up the party. But Tom normally wouldn't do this. 338 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:56,880 But if you've got a couple minutes I need to give you a quick update on a recent development. 339 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:57,880 Let's do it. 340 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:02,880 So Tom, this just hit the wire. This is a political issue. 341 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:04,880 I'm going to go ahead and get the phone out of the way. 342 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:06,880 I'm going to get the phone out of the way. 343 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:08,880 I'm going to get the phone out of the way. 344 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:10,880 I'm going to get the phone out of the way. 345 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:15,880 This just hit the wire. This is a political article. 346 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:20,880 The title is US Navy Drafting New Guidelines for Reporting UFOs. 347 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:24,880 Can you read the subtitle? 348 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:25,880 That's insane. 349 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:33,880 The fact that they're coming out now and they're saying that this is real and there's incursions over our sensitive sites. 350 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:38,880 We're putting together a national security policy to track them. It's like insane to me. 351 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:40,880 So you're absolutely right. I think you can break it down to three things. 352 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:44,880 My heart's beating fast and saying to me, I'm like crazy. 353 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:45,880 I'm pretty energized. 354 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,880 There's three pieces to this article that I find most captivating. 355 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:50,880 A, that the Navy is taking this seriously. 356 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,880 B, it's establishing an official reporting mechanism. 357 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:58,880 And C, that they have been talking with members of Congress and their staff. 358 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:03,880 It not only vindicates a lot of the hard work that's been going on behind the scenes. 359 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:10,880 But also I think it's a testament to the brave men and women in the US Navy who want to figure out what these things are. 360 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:15,880 I mean, Tom, this has been the culmination of all my personally, all my effort. 361 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,880 You know, I never did this for fame or status or damn sure not a paycheck. 362 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,880 I'm doing this because I was trying to fix a broken system, right? 363 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:32,880 And as I've told people before, the only thing I managed to accomplish in my entire new career moving forward is getting a reporting mechanism established 364 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:38,880 so people can report these things without fear of any type of retribution or any type of consequences professionally, 365 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,880 losing their security clearance or losing their flight status, right? 366 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:47,880 All the things that were bottlenecking me before from having reports come out. 367 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:51,880 That is the only thing I ever truly, that was mission success for me. 368 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:58,880 And here we are literally a year and a half later of you coming on stage and telling the world you're going to do this. 369 00:35:58,880 --> 00:35:59,880 It happened. 370 00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:01,880 It's absolutely wild. 371 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:02,880 Exciting stuff. 372 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:03,880 Let's see. 373 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:17,880 The Air Force's interest in this problem has been due to our feeling of an obligation to identify and analyze to the best of our ability anything in the air 374 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:23,880 that may have the possibility of threat or menace to the United States. 375 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,880 At this point, these things are coming up close and personal. 376 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:29,880 We are being forced to address it. 377 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:34,880 We don't have the luxury to sit back anymore as a country and say, let's not pay attention to that. 378 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:36,880 We have to pay attention to it. 379 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:43,880 Because now it appears to be stalking some of our DoD assets. 380 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:56,880 At base, these are reports from pilots, from military pilots in the Navy today or very recently in the Navy that have seen these phenomenon and reported them. 381 00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:58,880 I was a witness to something. 382 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:03,880 It's something that I happened to encounter. 383 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:04,880 I don't know what it was. 384 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:06,880 People ask me, what do you think it was? 385 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:08,880 Do you think it was of this earth? 386 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:09,880 Do you think it was aliens? 387 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:15,880 These things are out there. 388 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:16,880 We know they're out there. 389 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,880 There's enough credible that says there's things that we don't understand. 390 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:25,880 I can tell you that the other people that were involved all feel the same way. 391 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:26,880 Not everyone is talking. 392 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:28,880 Some of them are still on active duty. 393 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:34,880 But we all would love to know what it is. 394 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:36,880 I would love to fly it. 395 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:45,880 This is the story of the millennia. 396 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:47,880 This is changing the world stuff. 397 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:49,880 This really is in my heart. 398 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,880 Like, I am a part of something. 399 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:57,880 I created something that has an opportunity to change the world. 400 00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:59,880 And I really feel that. 401 00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:01,880 That is why I'm doing this. 402 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:06,880 For the first time in the history of our country and in the history of the subject, 403 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:23,880 the stigma and the taboo nature about it just got shattered to a thousand pieces in the wind. 404 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:33,880 We have an intelligence collection apparatus that is global in nature and exquisite from 22,500 miles above the earth's surface 405 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:41,880 to virtually the deepest levels of the ocean that may already have answers to many of the questions that we have. 406 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:48,880 My hope is that members of Congress will simply ask the right questions. 407 00:38:48,880 --> 00:39:00,880 We have an opportunity when this information is provided to them to respond to it and act on it. 408 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:12,880 I occasionally think how quickly our differences worldwide would vanish if we were facing an alien threat from outside this world. 409 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:17,880 The day will come when this occurs to you that it's real, that there's some other intelligence here, 410 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:25,880 that it's far more advanced than us, that it could do whatever it wants to us and we'd be powerless against it. 411 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:44,880 At the end of the day, I don't care if you believe it, I know what I've seen. 412 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,880 This stands as a reminder for everything that we do and how important it is. 413 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:57,880 The job of every man and woman and civilian, sailor, soldier, airman in the military, we do what we do because of this. 414 00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:02,880 And this is a reminder of that sacrifice. 415 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:13,880 I'm extremely optimistic that in a very short period of time, we're going to finally have answers and resolution to some long-standing questions. 416 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:24,880 We have access to people, to efforts like never before, to places we could never go before. 417 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:28,880 Maybe we can even build some things. 418 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:33,880 I think we're going to have new events that America has never been made aware of. 419 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:46,880 We're going to build this case so airtight that not only is it a beyond reasonable doubt situation, it will be irrefutable. 420 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:55,880 I think we're upon a precipice. I think the time has finally come. 421 00:40:55,880 --> 00:41:00,880 One last question. Do you think the public can handle the truth?